For today’s show, Ashley is delighted to be joined by the Center for Food Safety’s Executive Director Andrew Kimbrell to have a fascinating conversation with another world-renowned eco warrior, Vandana Shiva. Vandana Shiva is a quantum physicist, ecologist, activist, teacher, author and more. In this episode, Vandana and Andrew go deep into how the patenting of life and the antiglobalization movement led to their activist paths converging. With Ashley’s probing, Vandana and Andrew discuss the power of the WTO protests in Seattle and Cancún and what organizing in this moment requires, breakdown the dangers of philanthrocapitalism, why the human relationship to earth must be radically transformed, the need to embrace biodiverse solutions, what it means to be attacked by corporations, and why their activism isn’t about success or convincing others.