Kishore Mahbubani: The Biggest Mistakes of the US, China, and ASEAN | Endgame #196 (Luminaries)

Join Endgame’s first and biggest conference ever! ---------------------- Join Gita Wirjawan as Singaporean diplomat, founder of the LKY School of Public Policy, and former President of the UN Security Council, Kishore Mahbubani, makes his return to Endgame. In this conversation, Mahbubani explores the intricate dance between Western and Asian geopolitics, unravels the complexities of the UN Security Council, and examines the decline of multilateral institutions—along with how to bring them back. As new conflicts and alliances emerge, what will the future of global geopolitics look like? #Endgame #GitaWirjawan #KishoreMahbubani ---------------------- About Luminary: Kishore Mahbubani is a Singaporean diplomat, Founding Dean of LKY School of Public Policy, and Distinguished Fellow at the Asia Research Institute (ARI), National University of Singapore. Previously, he served as the President of the United Nations Security Council (2001 - 2002), Singaporean Ambassador to the UN, as well as Permanent Secretary at the Foreign Ministry of Singapore (1993 - 1998). A philosopher by training and storyteller by nature, Mahbubani has written various books surrounding Asian and Western geopolitics—his latest open-access book, *The Asian 21st Century* (2022), reaching over 3 million downloads. About the Host: Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur, educator, and Honorary Professor of Politics and International Relations at the School of Politics and International Relations, University of Nottingham. He is also a visiting scholar at The Shorenstein Asia-Pacific Research Center (APARC) at Stanford University (2022—2024) and a fellow at Harvard Kennedy School’s Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs. ---------------------- To discuss and explore more of this episode, visit: ---------------------- 0:00:00 - Intro 0:02:43 - Geopolitical update 0:04:39 - Who is winning from the Ukraine War? 0:08:44 - “The Gaza war is a minus for the United States” 0:19:03 - How to revive multilateral institutions 0:22:35 - Should we rejig the Security Council? 0:27:35 - Paradoxical truth of peace 0:32:17 - Is the US re-experiencing the Soviet Union’s fall? 0:36:37 - Has the ‘angry dragon’ just woke up? 0:44:21 - ASEAN’s mistake and magic 0:50:51 - “Taiwan is not an international problem” 0:53:30 - The trouble with the Nine-dash Line 0:58:14 - How to get along with China 1:02:53 - Perspective on QUAD and AUCUS 1:07:20 - The best thing ASEAN can do 1:12:03 - Message for Indonesia’s upcoming presidential term 1:15:12 - The rise of Southeast Asia 1:21:21 - Reject Western pessimism, project Asian optimism