You Can Label Me Gay, But I’m Not: Mark Bryan Loves Heels, Skirts & Women

This episode of What’s Underneath: Masculinity with Man Enough is sponsored by BetterHelp, the online, accessible therapy site. Visit today to get 10% off your first month. Meet Mark Bryan, the robot engineer, football coach, and accidental radical who challenges the idea of clothing being gendered and confidently wears skirts and pumps as a cis-straight “masculine” man. In this conversation we delve into a difficult but important discussion with Mark about his relationship with the LGBTQIA community and reflect on where he’s gone wrong with his language in the past. In real-time, he learns how to become a more effective ally, recognizing that while he sees his message as distinct from those who use clothing to express sexuality and gender, both he and the queer community are fighting the same battle to create a safe world for all to express themselves freely. Catch new episodes of What’s Underneath: Masculinity every Thursday on
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