Dawkins vs Peterson: Memes & Archetypes | Alex O’Connor Moderates | EP 491

Explore the “Mastering Life“ collection: Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with Alex O’Connor and Richard Dawkins to discuss their differences of view on the Abrahamic biblical texts, truth claims in science and fiction, the extension of memes through Jungian archetypes, and the memetical reality of dragons. This episode was filmed on September 30th, 2024 Richard Dawkins is a British evolutionary biologist, zoologist, science communicator, and bestselling author of books such as “The Selfish Gene,” and “The Genetic Book of the Dead.” Alex O’Connor is a philosophy-oriented YouTuber, podcaster, and public speaker. He graduated in 2021 from St. John’s College, Oxford University, with a BA in philosophy and theology. In 2023, he launched the “Within Reason” podcast, which has featured guests including Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, Slavoj Žižek, Neil deGrasse Tyson, and Rory Stewart, amongst others. Unlock the ad-free experience of The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast and dive into exclusive bonus content on DailyWire . Start watching now: ALL LINKS: | Sponsors | Shopify: Get a $1/ month FREE trial with full access to Shopify’s entire suite of features: Jeremy’s Razors: Get the Precision 5 from Jeremy’s Razors at Birch Gold: Text “JORDAN“ to 989898 for your no-cost, no-obligation, FREE information kit. | Links | For Richard Dawkins: On X On YouTube @poetryofreality The Genetic Book of the Dead (New book) For Alex O’Connor: On YouTube @CosmicSkeptic On X | Chapters | (0:00) Coming up (1:21) Memes vs. archetypes: what creates depth and fundamentality (6:34) “The battle between the gods” is portrayed across cultures (8:41) The world of facts is seen through a story (10:24) “Drunk on symbols,” the spirit of Cain (17:23) Were the biblical texts divinely inspired or did they evolve? (24:36) What escapes our grip: the biblical text and quantum physics (28:04) Dawkins clarifies his claim on being a cultural Christian (32:41) Truth claims in fiction, both sexes carry the image of God (34:24) The virgin birth and the absolute need for a value hierarchy (43:06) The preconditions for the scientific enterprise (46:19) The Resurrection and the bronze serpent (56:32) The divine and the mundane, the biological reality of dragons (1:14:30) Different kinds of minds, the logical extension of memes (1:19:54) The Baldwin effect applied to memes: a fundamental concordance (1:30:20) Is Richard Dawkins more interested in things or people? Books - #JordanPeterson #JordanBPeterson #DrJordanPeterson #DrJordanBPeterson #DailyWirePlus