Structures Shape Results: Software Insights • Elisabeth Hendrickson & Charles Humble • GOTO 2024

This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. #GOTOcon #GOTOunscripted Read the full transcription of this interview here: Elisabeth Hendrickson - Advisor, Coach, Speaker & Author of “Explore It!“ @curiousduckdev Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & Consultant RESOURCES Elisabeth @testobsessed Charles @charleshumble Links Better Testing Worse Quality: Managing the Proportions of Testing to Other Developers: Henrik Kniberg: DESCRIPTION From debunking testing ratios to exploring the impact of organizational structures on quality, the conversation between Charles Humble and Elisabeth Hendrickson offers actionable insights for engineering leaders. With candid reflections and practical strategies, this episode promises to inspire seasoned professionals and aspiring leaders alike, providing fresh perspectives to drive meaningful change within their teams and organizations. To understand the future of software testing we need to understand its roots. Discover game-changing strategies for optimizing team alignment, quality assurance, and more! [...] TIMECODES 00:00 Intro 01:13 Testing ratios 10:58 How organizational structure affects outcomes 14:07 Pivotal’s organizational model 19:57 Alignment with autonomous teams 24:14 Challenges of layoffs & reorganizations 31:21 Word count simulation 36:37 Intuition vs reality 41:19 Resources 42:54 Outro RECOMMENDED BOOKS Elisabeth Hendrickson • Explore It! • Gerald M. Weinberg • An Introduction to General Systems Thinking • Gerald M. Weinberg • Becoming a Technical Leader • Donella H. Meadow • Thinking in Systems • Peter M. Senge • The Fifth Discipline • #SystemsThinking #ExploreIt #Intuition #Alignment #Autonomy #OrganizationalModel #TestingRatio #Reorganization #HowToReorganize #WordCountSimulation #ElisabethHendrickson #CharlesHumble Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket at Sign up for updates and specials at SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CHANNEL - new videos posted almost daily.